NDSU OPTS OUT?

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NDSU OPTS OUT?

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10 Things To Know About The NCAA’s House Settlement

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristidosh ... ettlement/

Opt in or out. Many FCS schools are in, including the Montanas. NDSU opted out. It’s a long article but explains a lot. Some things I got out of it include:
  • NDSU will not participate in the 22% NCAA player revenue sharing going back to 2016.
  • NDSU will keep the NIL outside of the athletic department.
  • NDSU will not pay any of the $990Mil fine all FCS schools opting in will pay.
  • NDSU will avoid title 9 ramifications.
Unclear on affect to NDSUs roster, opting in FCS schools can go to the full 83. A big deal in advancing the FCS
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The general settlement
the parties have agreed to $2.8 billion in damages to former college athletes and 22% of the average Power 5 school’s revenues. That amount is estimated at more than $20 million annually per school for future revenue sharing, which will increase as college athletic revenues increase. Additionally, scholarship caps will be removed, allowing athletic departments to spend more there as well.
To me it says if you opt-in you may spend up to 20 million/year in revenue sharing payments to players, 22% of the power 5 average revenues/year. You don’t have to, but you may,

That kind of money prices NDSU out of any kind of CFP and the imagined glory of that future playoff run. Might be lucky to stay competitive in FCS if the NIL organizations can’t raise the dollars needed.

I believe those opting in can use general fund revenues to pay players too.
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They want the smaller schools to pay the lions share while they received no benefit.
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For sure. Also, Seems to me participation frees the smaller schools from a lot of roster regulation and NCAA compliance issues. All they deal with are caps on roster and budget size.

This is going to equalize the potential FCS and FBS roster size. The top FBS teams are just going to out spend everybody else while building their new nfl. NDSU is never going to be part of that and probably saw this coming.

It’s now probably going to take a talented 83 full ride scholarship roster to compete at the top of FCS*

*the Ivies can afford the 20 million
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Top level FBS is being deployed as a professional sport. College kids playing for the old Alma mater is a quant, old fashioned notion. It is pro ball now, disconnected from the universities primary function. It seems some college teams could compete in the NFL.

When it comes to football, the “OLD COLLEGE TRY” Just isn’t what it used to be.
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BisonOline wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 12:53 am They want the smaller schools to pay the lions share while they received no benefit.
That appears to be NDSUs attitude. Sounds petty. Is it cutting off their nose to spite their face?

I ask because opt-out FCS schools, if I understand this, are going to be at roster disadvantages as far as scholarship/payroll and roster size.

It seems to me
  • the opt-in schools are under the new 20 million dollar payroll 83 scholarship 105 man roster with in house NIL and/or institutional resources up to the 22% avg revenue cap
  • the opt-out schools are still under the old NCAA scholarship limits with outside NIL
If that’s true the opt-in schools look like the new FBS to me.

Is NDSU in the new FCS? You might say a D1AA, formerly FCS and now an opt-out school?
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JBB2 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:41 am Top level FBS is being deployed as a professional sport. College kids playing for the old Alma mater is a quant, old fashioned notion. It is pro ball now, disconnected from the universities primary function. It seems some college teams could compete in the NFL.

When it comes to football, the “OLD COLLEGE TRY” Just isn’t what it used to be.
Youve never been there so dont try to opine on it.
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BisonOline wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:06 am
JBB2 wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:41 am Top level FBS is being deployed as a professional sport. College kids playing for the old Alma mater is a quant, old fashioned notion. It is pro ball now, disconnected from the universities primary function. It seems some college teams could compete in the NFL.

When it comes to football, the “OLD COLLEGE TRY” Just isn’t what it used to be.
Youve never been there so dont try to opine on it.
lol. The tragedy of the leather helmet. How many concussions did you have before you fell under the illusion you could police thought and speech.

You demonstrate pettiness in your posts. I think it’s a reflection of the NDSU administrations attitude.

Tell me what advantages does NDSU enjoy by opting-out?

Does opting-out relegate NDSU to the lower tier of college football.

By opting-out. Is D1AA ndsu, now FCS, in the equivalent of D3?

Thanks in advance for your congeniality.
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An excerpt from the following article

By opting-out will NDSU be under these rules?

https://www.ncsasports.org/blog/ncaa-sc ... imits-2024

NCAA SCHOLARSHIP RULES: WHAT’S CHANGING?
Let’s explore the changes coming to NCAA D1 sports for the 2025-2026 academic year if the settlement is approved.

No Scholarship Cap: NCAA D1 schools will be able to offer scholarships to every athlete on their roster, eliminating previous sport-specific limits. This means schools will have more flexibility in financially supporting their athletes, increasing the number of potential college sports scholarships.

New Roster Limits: NCAA is introducing new roster limits that match or exceed current scholarship restrictions for each sport. With scholarship caps gone, most programs will be able to offer more scholarships. However, they must follow the new NCAA roster limits for each sport. For example, NCAA football scholarship limits will have a roster cap of 105 players, up from 85. Keep reading to see the full list of new roster limits for all NCAA D1 sports, including the current and new numbers

Scholarship Type: All sports will now be classified as equivalency sports, allowing schools to offer partial scholarships. This is a huge change from the current system where some sports, like football, basketball and volleyball, are headcount sports and only offer full scholarships.

The removal of scholarship caps and changes to roster limits are part of a major settlement agreement involving three lawsuits against the NCAA and the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12 and SEC: House v. NCAA, Hubbard v. NCAA and Carter v. NCAA.
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Whatever opting-out means NDSU stands with the ivies. It’s kind of a D3 mentality

Ivy League To Opt Out of NCAA Settlement, Rejecting Revenue Sharing for Athletes

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025 ... ettlement/
Richard Kent, a sports lawyer, explained that Ivy League schools could be placed at a competitive disadvantage when recruiting and maintaining talented athletes compared to other schools who opt in to the settlement.
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