Elon Musk now has enough information to steal your identity

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JBB2 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:37 pm
Jack wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:40 pm I missed the part of that article that says all of the people associated with those numbers are receiving payments. Can you quote it?

Social security numbers are not reused and they were first issued in 1936 so it is understandable that the table contains people 150 years old and even older. The total of the those 170 and older is about 10,000. Given that 450 million numbers have been issued, this is seems like a pretty low error rate.
They didn’t mention names but they did release this information. I hope this help you
the population of the United States as of 2023 was 334.9 million people? The Social Security system, however, is paying benefits to 398.4 million people, or 63.5 million more people than live in the United States.
I think this article will be helpful

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... money.html
I can't find the DOGE report that your link references. The SSA site and the AP have significantly different numbers. SSA shows about 146 million people received social security, supplemental security income or both for Jan 2025. The AP points out the data type issue that I believe Hammerhead already referenced.

The new acting commissioner says
The reported data are people in our records with a Social Security number who do not have a date of death associated with their record. These individuals are not necessarily receiving benefits.
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quickfa ... _snapshot/
https://apnews.com/article/social-secur ... 15b4852cf7
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I agree, it’s good to see the entire picture.

Before we continue do your sources reveal how much abc “news” has been paid by usaid?

I’m not surprised about conflicting reports coming from the horribly mismanaged ssa. I’ll wait for the full independent audit results not the uncertainty of the new administrator, who may not be familiar with the situation and may have their own interests to protect.

I’m putting my trust in the independent news sources and the outside audit. I suggest you do the same

this attempt of yours to justify and accept the careless, irresponsible and possible criminal mismanagement at the ssa is just the tip of the iceberg ignoring the rest of this unfolding scene of ongoing, widespread, chronic government failure.

I agree, as we wait for the final independent, government-wide audit reports caution is the word. In the mean-time, most folks are horrified at what is coming out and happy it finally is:
Word on the street is that DOGE is about to dive headfirst into the wild and unruly Ukraine funding, which is welcome news to many Americans who are sick and tired of watching their hard-earned tax dollars get used to fight a war that Ukraine can’t win and has no intention of ending, ever.
Trump backs confirming Fort Knox gold is there, as Treasury says it is
President Donald Trump is backing an Elon Musk-led DOGE effort to confirm that all the U.S. gold reserves at Ft. Knox in Kentucky are really there
Elon Musk warns Federal Reserve may face DOGE audit
Musk previously claimed that the Fed is 'absurdly overstaffed'

Oh yes, and that DOGE report you couldn’t find is here:

https://doge.gov/savings
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Let them audit. America has the right to know

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JBB2 wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 8:05 am I agree, it’s good to see the entire picture.

Before we continue do your sources reveal how much abc “news” has been paid by usaid?

I’m not surprised about conflicting reports coming from the horribly mismanaged ssa. I’ll wait for the full independent audit results not the uncertainty of the new administrator, who may not be familiar with the situation and may have their own interests to protect.

I’m putting my trust in the independent news sources and the outside audit. I suggest you do the same

this attempt of yours to justify and accept the careless, irresponsible and possible criminal mismanagement at the ssa is just the tip of the iceberg ignoring the rest of this unfolding scene of ongoing, widespread, chronic government failure.

I agree, as we wait for the final independent, government-wide audit reports caution is the word. In the mean-time, most folks are horrified at what is coming out and happy it finally is:
Word on the street is that DOGE is about to dive headfirst into the wild and unruly Ukraine funding, which is welcome news to many Americans who are sick and tired of watching their hard-earned tax dollars get used to fight a war that Ukraine can’t win and has no intention of ending, ever.
Trump backs confirming Fort Knox gold is there, as Treasury says it is
President Donald Trump is backing an Elon Musk-led DOGE effort to confirm that all the U.S. gold reserves at Ft. Knox in Kentucky are really there
Elon Musk warns Federal Reserve may face DOGE audit
Musk previously claimed that the Fed is 'absurdly overstaffed'

Oh yes, and that DOGE report you couldn’t find is here:

https://doge.gov/savings
Thanks for the link to the DOGE report. Unfortunately, it only lists saving from contract cuts and real estate savings at different SSA offices. There is not listing for how much is being saved by removing all of these "vampires" from the payroll. That seems like it would be trivial to generate that report since the list of vampires is known.

I think a lot of this can be covered by this quote
Musk also admitted to making public statements that were “absolutely not true” since launching his initiative, including misinformation about U.S. foreign aid. He acknowledged errors but maintained that his team is committed to fixing mistakes quickly. “Some of the things that I say will be incorrect and should be corrected,” Musk said. “We will make mistakes, but we'll act quickly to correct any mistakes.”
https://www.cleveland13news.com/story/e ... -federal-s

I'm not sure why you are asking about ABC news. I referenced the AP, the SSA, and the SSA administrator.
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It is certainly human to error. Some of your statements serve as proper testimony to that.

It is outstanding to recognize your mistake, admit it and correct your course of action.

It’s good we agree that the process “Chainsaw” Musk has undertaken at the direction of the President is necessary and restorative for the republic.

Full rebuttal of leftist anti-doge talking points here

The Democrats' Failed Anti-DOGE Narratives
who could have imagined a politician really and truly dismantling the Deep State and returning power on loan from the people to the people rather than just slinging soaring rhetoric? That Trump is first and foremost a businessman and deal maker seems to have escaped their notice. That he really does seem to love America and Americans has not escaped their notice, and that, above all else, terrifies them.
https://www.americanthinker.com/article ... tives.html

It’s hard to defend the indefensible but congratulations to you for trying.
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I'm not sure why you are asking about ABC news. I referenced the AP, the SSA, and the SSA administrator.
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Read my comment again. You will find what you are looking for regarding the ssa. Sorry about the abc reference. That was my mistake but it’s always good to remind folks just how unreliable and false the legacy media are. As far as the ap goes pertinent questions include when did the deep state give them the story, how much are they receiving from usaid and when did the deep state tell them to run it? You would do well to turn it off. 8-)
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JBB2 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:18 pm It is certainly human to error. Some of your statements serve as proper testimony to that.

It is outstanding to recognize your mistake, admit it and correct your course of action.

It’s good we agree that the process “Chainsaw” Musk has undertaken at the direction of the President is necessary and restorative for the republic.

Full rebuttal of leftist anti-doge talking points here

The Democrats' Failed Anti-DOGE Narratives
who could have imagined a politician really and truly dismantling the Deep State and returning power on loan from the people to the people rather than just slinging soaring rhetoric? That Trump is first and foremost a businessman and deal maker seems to have escaped their notice. That he really does seem to love America and Americans has not escaped their notice, and that, above all else, terrifies them.
https://www.americanthinker.com/article ... tives.html

It’s hard to defend the indefensible but congratulations to you for trying.
I don't see where I was defending anything. I was pointing our factual errors (which have yet to be corrected) in the SSA information you posted. Why are you replying to me with a "full rebuttal of leftist anti-doge talking points"?

Everyone knows there is waste in the government and probably some fraud, The approach Musk & Trump are taking to eliminate it appears to be strictly to please their base. Large layoffs without an analysis of the job function causes unnecessary churn. See the layoff and rehire at the National Nuclear Security Administration. My guess is that in a couple of years, you will see government staffing levels almost back to where they were under Biden.
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I'm not sure why you are asking about ABC news. I referenced the ap
The ap is and has been a paid mouthpiece. They no longer have security clearances

Judge Denies Associated Press Emergency Motion to Restore White House Access
The AP made its motion in a suit filed in Washington against three White House officials, claiming the administration’s move violates the First Amendment.
“As we have said from the beginning, asking the President of the United States questions in the Oval Office and aboard Air Force One is a privilege granted to journalists, not a legal right,” a statement from the White House said
The Trump administration later extended the ban on AP reporters to Air Force One, where the news agency has long had permanent seats.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025 ... se-access/
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JBB2 wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:38 am
I'm not sure why you are asking about ABC news. I referenced the ap
The ap is and has been a paid mouthpiece. They no longer have security clearances

Judge Denies Associated Press Emergency Motion to Restore White House Access
The AP made its motion in a suit filed in Washington against three White House officials, claiming the administration’s move violates the First Amendment.
“As we have said from the beginning, asking the President of the United States questions in the Oval Office and aboard Air Force One is a privilege granted to journalists, not a legal right,” a statement from the White House said
The Trump administration later extended the ban on AP reporters to Air Force One, where the news agency has long had permanent seats.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025 ... se-access/
You reject the AP and then quote breitbart? Just because a news outlet says what you want to hear doesn't make it accurate.

Trump revoked the AP's access to limited space White House events for using the globally accepted name for the Gulf of Mexico. This is an action that even Fox and Newsmax sided with the AP on. Sorry, I don't know breitbart status. In any case, the White House decision seems petty but of course the whole topic of thinking it can rename a global entity like the Gulf of Mexico is ridiculous. No one else will call it that and the next president will probably change it back. Just more churn and wasted money from the group that says they are for smaller, less restrictive government. Trump gave his insecure maga-minions something to cheer about while inflation and probably unemployment goes up.

I can hardly wait to see how you are going to move the goal posts in your next reply. At least you have given up on defending the SSA garbage.
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